Inside the Trump Regime Change with Jonathan Swan

New York Times journalist Jonathan Swan is famous for his interview with Donald Trump at the height of Covid. Now, he’s exposing Trump again.

Jul 13, 2026, updated Jul 13, 2026

New York Times journalist Jonathan Swan is famous for his trainwreck interview with US President Donald Trump at the height of Covid.

Now, he’s exposing Trump again with a forensic look at what he says was the most consequential year of an American presidency in our lifetime.

Trump’s first presidency was defined by chaos – but also by the people around him trying to contain it.

Swan says the second term is different. Trump has returned to the White House with a tighter circle of loyalists, and far fewer people willing to say no.

In a new book Regime Change, co-authored with Maggie Haberman, Swan goes inside the first 14 months of Trump’s return to power, documenting a presidency that is using the machinery of government to punish enemies, pressure institutions and test what one president can get away with.

Today, Swan, on Trump’s second term – and how he’s changed America forever.

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