Today, readers comment on binning edible food, a court battle over a proposed nuclear waste site on Eyre Peninsula, and city apartments versus live music.

Commenting on the opinion piece: Ali Clarke: Outdated ideas putting the ‘gross’ in groceries
Well done, it’s great to see people in the public eye making these sort of points as they are taken notice of.
As a Microbiology student in the late 70s the first thing we were taught was to observe what bacterial colonies looked like on agar plates, then lift the lid and smell them to get an initial identification (likely you are not allowed to do this in lab class anymore I would say!).
Human senses have been evolving for millions of years to protect us. If it looks ok, smells ok and a small taste indicates no problem (this is why medieval royalty had food tasters) then if its just past its sell by (or even use by) date and has been stored correctly it should still be fine.
It’s probably more useful to check with a thermometer that your fridge is no higher than 4oC as many run at up to 10oC without you even knowing – this is risky. – Christopher Saint
Commenting on the story: Call to suspend work on SA nuclear waste site
The Labor government was elected in May. This is all part of the Coalition’s determination to make Kimba that nuclear waste dump regardless of the rights and concerns of its First Nations traditional owners.
The new Minister for Resources needs to acceded to Senator Barbara Pocock’s request. The Labor government needs to stop work on the site while the case is before the court. And that overwhelming use of our revenue by the former government, being continued by this one, is abominable. – Erica Jolly
Commenting on the story: ‘They’re going to complain’: Apartments squeeze city music pubs
It’s a tad disingenuous for Ian Horne to minimise the effect that gaming had on live music; the impact in the nineties was fairly immediate and wide ranging.
While a lot of band venues went down, amongst the most affected were the acoustic solo and duo acts in hotels. This didn’t disappear because of residential accommodation etc. They were simply moved on for the pokies.
While we can’t go back, this graveyard roll call should jolt this UNESCO City of Music into taking some action, albeit too late for many venues. If I may indulge in a bit of “back in the day”: when this issue was at its peak in the ‘nineties, the South Australia Music Industry Association, AUSMUSIC SA (now Music SA) and the West End Association (which was home to many of the live music venues) actively lobbied for changes in city planning laws.
As Chair/President of these respective organisations during that time, various meetings were had with state and local government ministers and planners. Their proposal was to offer grants to hotels to double glaze/soundproof the venues. Without going into all the inefficiencies of retrofitting sound attenuation to heritage buildings, the idea didn’t really take off.
Our counter proposal was to make double (or even triple) glazing a condition of city apartments. Needless to say, this went down like the proverbial. Developers simply couldn’t be asked to add such a cost to their build, even though they could clearly pass it on.
I don’t live in an apartment in the city, but I visit with those who do. And yes, noise is a factor. You can hear the traffic, the sirens, the aeroplanes. Single glazing is also a poor insulator; there appears to be a bizarre notion that Australia doesn’t require insulation against heat and cold, and that it’s perfectly okay to have air conditioning going in residential buildings 24/7. Clearly, it’s not.
So while it’s too late for some, there is still opportunity to require developers to accommodate noise attenuation in the building design; at the very least, double glazing.
We thought they were killing the joint off in the ‘nineties – it’s scrappy but hanging in there, and it needs all the help it can get. Sound attenuating insulation for new residential buildings would be a bloody good start. – Arna Eyers-White
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